PCGamer on Fallout 3

Mad Max RW · Post by **Mad Max RW** » Sat Jul 19, 2003 7:04 pm

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<html><body>It looks like all that complaining and coverage of a possible Fallout 3 extended from our mindless online ramblings to the pages of one of the most popular gaming magazines out there. In next monthÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢s issue of PCGamer they have a <A HREF=http://diogenes-lamp.info/images/fallout3lol.jpg target=_blank>short article</A> on the fansÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢ hatred toward Interplay, the upcoming Fallout: Brotherhood of Steel, and some recent evidence that Project Van Buren is, in fact, Fallout 3. ItÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢s all things we already know, but hereÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢s a clip anyway:<blockquote>ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬?ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã‚Â¦The catalyst for this outpouring of unmitigated hated (directed at Interplay, thankfully, not yours truly) was merely my short commentary lambasting Interplay for releasing a console-only Fallout game, rather than the PC sequel to Fallout 2 that weÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢ve all been slobbering after now for years. To say you all agree with my feelings on the subject would be an understatement of epic proportions ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â‚¬Å“ though I hardly support the radical suggestion that the entire company be lined up against a wall and shot. (These are just games, people.)ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬?</blockquote>Hmmm, sounds familiar.<blockquote>ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬?ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã‚Â¦But there may be hope, even if itÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢s based on fleeting rumors and innuendo typed by some Black Isle employees on InterplayÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢s forums. Espoused by the various Fallout observers on their web sites, and aided by rampant speculation by hundreds of you out there, the rumor has spread that Fallout 3 for the PC may be in the works. Whether it will ever see the light of day is anyoneÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢s guess, especially with InterplayÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢s current financial woes and the reported departure of Chris Avellone from Black Isle Studios (heÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢s the man responsible for Planescape: Torment, and the person many thought would be the lead designer of Fallout 3.)"</blockquote>Funny stuff. Thanks to axelgreese for the <A HREF=http://diogenes-lamp.info/images/fallout3lol.jpg target=_blank>article</A>.</body></html>

Killzig · Post by **Killzig** » Sat Jul 19, 2003 7:29 pm

Hmm image linked up on JE's server?

Gimp Mask · Post by **Gimp Mask** » Sat Jul 19, 2003 7:32 pm

Mad Max RW wrote:(These are just games, people)

Yeah and books are just books, movies are just movies, paintings are just paintings (fuck you Van Gogh you fucking sellout, Sunflowers was NOT canon) and chop sticks are just fucking CHOP STICKS... yeah. With that kind of an attitude it's no wonder computer games have not and will not get the place they deserve in the Hall of Entertainment! or something.

my 0.023tuwery423

deadlus · Post by **deadlus** » Sat Jul 19, 2003 7:48 pm

Hmm image linked up on JE's server?

He posted it on SA forums, linky

Finch · Post by **Finch** » Sat Jul 19, 2003 10:16 pm

Lasse wrote:
Mad Max RW wrote:(These are just games, people)
Yeah and books are just books, movies are just movies, paintings are just paintings (fuck you Van Gogh you fucking sellout, Sunflowers was NOT canon) and chop sticks are just fucking CHOP STICKS... yeah. With that kind of an attitude it's no wonder computer games have not and will not get the place they deserve in the Hall of Entertainment! or something.

my 0.023tuwery423

And likewise authors, producers and directors, painters, and makers of chop sticks should not be set up against a while and fired upon, you dolt...

if you had read, you would have seen that that quote is from a statement saying that a game is more important than a life is ludicrous (whether it be a game, book, movie, painting, or chop sticks)

Jimmyjay86 · Post by **Jimmyjay86** » Sat Jul 19, 2003 11:09 pm

Nobody is seriously thinking about shooting anyone, its dark sarcasm. Josh knows that but I'm not sure what comments the author of the article received. Maybe the PC Gamer audience is in reality rougher than the fans on this site?? I would tend to doubt it. But the question is to what level should people interested in something go in their pursuit of it?

What is a computer game? Can it acieve more satisfaction than checkers? A well done game like Fallout can involve players to a degree that books, paintings, and music can. People should have feelings over personal involvements, its what separates us from amoeba and gives meaning to our pathetic lives. There are people that take that involvement too far but again I don't think their is anyone in the fanbase here that would ever consider taking that love to violent levels. But the quote "a game is a just a game" is a slap in the face to fans or lovers of anything. Art is never just blotches of color and lines, music is more than just sounds, and Fallout is more than just Mario brothers.

Finch · Post by **Finch** » Sat Jul 19, 2003 11:12 pm

Jimmyjay86 wrote:Nobody is seriously thinking about shooting anyone, its dark sarcasm. Josh knows that but I'm not sure what comments the author of the article received. Maybe the PC Gamer audience is in reality rougher than the fans on this site?? I would tend to doubt it. But the question is to what level should people interested in something go in their pursuit of it?

IIRC, people did actually send death threats to developers of the game. While I laugh as much as anyone at a good joke, some people take things too far.

Jimmyjay86 · Post by **Jimmyjay86** » Sat Jul 19, 2003 11:16 pm

Finch wrote:IIRC, people did actually send death threats to developers of the game. While I laugh as much as anyone at a good joke, some people take things too far.

Hmm, and you heard that where? Is there a link or direct quote you can provide or is this hearsay? "A friend of a friend said...." Just because a journalist for PC Gamer said "....though I hardly support the radical suggestion that the entire company be lined up against a wall and shot." does not mean that there were any death threats. That quote in itself is something many people have said in obvious jest but does not qualify as a real death threat.

DJ SlamÃƒÂ¡k · Post by **DJ SlamÃƒÂ¡k** » Sat Jul 19, 2003 11:20 pm

The article is mostly okay, but I can't not notice (?) the description of the screenshots...

The classic Fallout (left) followed the mysterious Vault Dweller as he ventured out to explore the post-nuclear wastes. In the sequel, Fallout 2 (right), he wandered all over the Southwest before leading a revolt on an isolated island.

One of us apparently needs to play the games again. :shock:

Gimp Mask · Post by **Gimp Mask** » Sat Jul 19, 2003 11:34 pm

Finch wrote:And likewise authors, producers and directors, painters, and makers of chop sticks should not be set up against a while and fired upon, you dolt...

Well, if they're shitty chopsticks then why not!

I'm sure many let's say movie fanatics have had the same kind of feelings as Fallout fans though; I bet quite a few Star Wars fans were more than disappointed after seeing Episode 1 don't you think? Oh wait, it's a movie not "just" a game, their rantings and ravings are justified then! Not saying that any computer game has ever been as sophisticated as some artsy fartsy french movie, but many have been a lot more entertaining!

if you had read, you would have seen that that quote is from a statement saying that a game is more important than a life is ludicrous (whether it be a game, book, movie, painting, or chop sticks)

I thought his statement was just a dark joke, oh well. But the point stays, most people still seem to consider computer gaming a childish or a geeky hobby, which it mostly isn't anymore.

Oh I also liked the blue box at the bottom of the article: "In the sequel, Fallout 2, he [Vault Dweller...] wandered all over the Southwest before leading a revolt on an enslaved island." .....ok (EDIT: beat me to it you fuck!)

Finch wrote:IIRC, people did actually send death threats to developers of the game. While I laugh as much as anyone at a good joke, some people take things too far.

I think that was FOBOS you fool! :D

POOPERSCOOPER · Post by **POOPERSCOOPER** » Sun Jul 20, 2003 12:21 am

I've sent plenty of death threats to developers and bioware fans, no biggie.

S4ur0n27 · Post by **S4ur0n27** » Sun Jul 20, 2003 12:32 am

People have killed for books, army were raised for religious paintings, for different believes, etc, so why not kill for games?

Finch · Post by **Finch** » Sun Jul 20, 2003 12:38 am

The only thing I kill for is money...but then, only if they deserve it. Or I'm broke.

Killzig · Post by **Killzig** » Sun Jul 20, 2003 2:47 am

so you're the local orkin man?

Jimmyjay86 · Post by **Jimmyjay86** » Sun Jul 20, 2003 2:55 am

s4ur0n27 wrote:People have killed for books, army were raised for religious paintings, for different believes, etc, so why not kill for games?

Yes and people have killed because they were drunk, just plain stupid, or because their gay lover was sleeping with the neighbor's dog...

ExtremeDrinker · Post by **ExtremeDrinker** » Sun Jul 20, 2003 5:02 am

I hate gay dogs...Yet I still respect an animal that can lick it's own genitals in front of house guests.

quilla_b · Post by **quilla_b** » Sun Jul 20, 2003 12:50 pm

does anyone know what issue that is of PC gamer?

I might buy it. Hell, Fallout is there! Need to keep my collections...

hehehe...

Megatron · Post by **Megatron** » Sun Jul 20, 2003 1:37 pm

money is just money d00d

people have killed for stupider reasons. like football. or weapons of mass-destruction. it's all about the size of your dick in the end, because some men like sausages with extra mustard on if you know what I mean

The death threats aren't anything to be whining about, people say them all the time. Mabye if they carried them out you could complain, but they're only game developers so it can't matter much eh mate?

and all is right with the world, except that nothing works.

Mad Max RW · Post by **Mad Max RW** » Sun Jul 20, 2003 4:15 pm

Finch wrote: IIRC, people did actually send death threats to developers of the game. While I laugh as much as anyone at a good joke, some people take things too far.

That can be debated until the end of time. Here in the US even joking about death threats can throw you in jail.

Killzig · Post by **Killzig** » Sun Jul 20, 2003 4:17 pm

Oh and just to clarify we have yet to see any direct proof of anyone saying anythign to the effect of "OHMGIMGOINGTOKILLTHESEDEVELOPERSANDTHEIRFAMILIES"

Just techwizzer and chucky claiming we said this.

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