Need FoT mapping help

Post by **Retlaw83** » Tue Jul 20, 2004 4:32 pm

Could someone point me to an advanced map-making tutorial? I really can't see making my battlefield one tile at a time.

Thanks.

Jimmyjay86 · Post by **Jimmyjay86** » Tue Jul 20, 2004 10:05 pm

I admit I am a little lazy. I have been in the habit of taking maps from the original game and modifying them or even cutting clips from one map to add to another map. Clips are the simplest way to create a big map quickly. I have a small library of clipped buildings that I can share if you need them. There also is a good variety of terrains in the random encounter mission maps. They are easy to use as a starting point and require little modification. Here is a catalog of the various terrains available:

Mission Y01 - Rocky Desert
Mission Y02 - Rocky Desert
Mission Y03 - Rocky Desert
Mission Y04 - Rocky Desert
Mission Y05 - Rocky Desert
Mission Y06 - Rocky Desert
Mission Y07 - Rocky Forest
Mission Y08 - Rocky Forest
Mission Y09 - Rocky Forest
Mission Y10 - Rocky Desert Wastes
Mission Y11 - Rocky Desert
Mission Y12 - Rocky Desert Wastes
Mission Y13 - Rocky Forest Wastes
Mission Y14 - Swampy Forest Wastes
Mission Y15 - Rocky Forest Wastes
Mission Y16 - Rocky Swampy Forest
Mission Y17 - Rocky Swampy Forest
Mission Y18 - Rocky Forest
Mission Y19 - Rocky Forest
Mission Y20 - Rocky Forest
Mission Y21 - Rocky Forest Cliffs
Mission Y22 - Rocky Forest Cliffs
Mission Y23 - Tribal Village
Mission Y24 - Tribal Rocky Swampy Forest
Mission Y25 - Raiders Rocky Forest
Mission Y26 - Raiders Rocky Swampy Forest
Mission Y27 - Snowy Rocky Forest Cliffs
Mission Y28 - Snowy Rocky Forest Cliffs
Mission Y29 - Snowy Rocky Forest Cliffs
Mission Y30 - Snowy Rocky Forest Cliffs
Mission Y31 - Rocky Canyon
Mission Y32 - Rocky Canyon
Mission Y33 - Rocky Forest Cliffs
Mission Y34 - Rocky Forest Cliffs
Mission Y35 - Ruined City Streets
Mission Y36 - Ruined City Streets
Mission Y37 - Ruined City Rutted Paths
Mission Y38 - Ruined City Rutted Paths
Mission Y39 - Ruined Industrial Streets
Mission Y40 - Ruined Industrial Streets
Mission Y41 - Ruined City
Mission Y42 - Ruined City Rocky Desert

Post by **Retlaw83** » Wed Jul 21, 2004 1:40 am

I might be asking for some of those for use with later mods, but right now I need snow. Snow I tells ya! And lots of it.

I did figure out some things with the editor, and from that I was able to make a snow tile fill set. Then my first roof started giving me problems. Then I found out that simulating a conversation between two characters crashes the game because they try and talk at the same time because Tactics doesn't sequentially go through triggers as well as it could.

Learning is fun.

Jimmyjay86 · Post by **Jimmyjay86** » Wed Jul 21, 2004 5:12 am

If you have speech between two NPCs, use blocking to make them talk in the proper sequence.

Post by **Retlaw83** » Wed Jul 21, 2004 6:10 am

I'm not sure what you mean by "blocking". You mean make sure they can't see each other?

quietfanatic · Post by **quietfanatic** » Wed Jul 21, 2004 2:52 pm

Blocking is a tick box in the top right of the trigger if I remember correctly, which means that the second action will not occur until the first action is completed.

There is another tick box, repeat action which is vitally important for many things, such as switches that open doors.

Post by **Retlaw83** » Wed Jul 21, 2004 3:15 pm

Thanks quietfanatic!

I see you stumbled on here just recently. Welcome to DaC.

quietfanatic · Post by **quietfanatic** » Wed Jul 21, 2004 3:27 pm

I was here before, but I couldn't access my account for a while, JJ fixed it for me.

Post by **Retlaw83** » Wed Jul 21, 2004 3:54 pm

Well, welcome back then.

Jimmyjay86 · Post by **Jimmyjay86** » Wed Jul 21, 2004 4:03 pm

quietfanatic wrote:I was here before, but I couldn't access my account for a while, JJ fixed it for me.

I'm glad the new password did the trick for you. WB!

As far as the answer to the question you had about the random encounter enemies, you may want to check out this thread:

http://www.thevats.net/forums/viewtopic ... =inventory

There is a possibility that might be the reason why the rebels don't use the weapons?

quietfanatic · Post by **quietfanatic** » Thu Jul 22, 2004 11:54 am

I didn't spot that tread, but I had already considered that coincidentally. They were race type BOS, so I changed them to raider, and it didn't seem to change anything, so I changed them back to BOS and still, it didn't work.

Even more strangely, sometimes the missile launcher entities do have ammunition and shoot me, and sometimes they don't.

PaladinHeart · Post by **PaladinHeart** » Tue Jul 27, 2004 3:09 am

Perhaps its their level of skill? Or, perhaps, they are afraid they'll shoot themselves or each other? After all, the rocket launcher is a powerful weapon and, oftentimes, dangerous weapon in the wrong hands.

Remember those mutants in the APC mission? Lots of fun that.

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Need FoT mapping help

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