Oh that smarts!

the guardian · Post by **the guardian** » Mon Sep 08, 2003 8:19 pm

Has anyone here have ever experianced nootropics? I'm kind of curious on whether or not they're effective, and how was it.

Jimmyjay86 · Post by **Jimmyjay86** » Mon Sep 08, 2003 10:08 pm

I'm sorry, what?

atoga · Post by **atoga** » Mon Sep 08, 2003 10:15 pm

Nootropics IDIOT

Wait, huh?

Jimmyjay86 · Post by **Jimmyjay86** » Mon Sep 08, 2003 10:25 pm

http://nootropics.com

Another approach to enhancing mood and intellect involves swapping or combining a choline agonist with a different, primarily dopaminergic drug. The selective dopamine reuptake blocker amineptine (Survector) is both a mood-brightener and a smart-drug. Likewise selegiline, popularly known as l-deprenyl, has potentially life-enhancing properties. L-deprenyl is a selective, irreversible MAO-b inhibitor with antioxidant, immune-system-boosting and anti-neurodegenerative effects. It retards the metabolism not just of dopamine but also of phenylethylamine, a trace amine also found in chocolate and released when we're in love. Deprenyl also stimulates the release of superoxide dismutase (SOD). SOD is a key enzyme which helps to quench damaging free-radicals. Taken consistently in low doses, deprenyl extends the life-expectancy of rats by some 20%; enhances drive, libido and endurance; and independently improves cognitive performance in Alzheimer's patients and in some healthy normals. It is used successfully to treat canine cognitive dysfunction syndrome (CDS) in dogs. Deprenyl also protects the brain's dopamine cells from oxidative stress. The brain has only about 30-40 thousand dopaminergic neurons in all. It tends to lose perhaps 13% a decade in adult life. An eventual 70%-80% loss leads to the dopamine-deficiency disorder Parkinson's disease and frequently depression. Clearly anything that spares so precious a resource might prove a valuable tool for life-enrichment.

I concur, anything that extends the life expectancy of rats has to be good.

atoga · Post by **atoga** » Mon Sep 08, 2003 10:27 pm

Oh, ok. Sounds neat.

Smiley · Post by **Smiley** » Tue Sep 09, 2003 12:09 am

I concur, anything that extends the life expectancy of rats has to be good.

... I'm not sure 50 year old rats is a sight I want to see...

So when do we start testing it on humans?
Any voulenteers?

Calal · Post by **Calal** » Tue Sep 09, 2003 12:18 am

Perhaps some of those dopeheads that hang around here? Might make them a tad smarter. Then again, maybe I wouldn' t want to raise their life expectancy. Hmmm, ethical dillema.

T-900 · Post by **T-900** » Tue Sep 09, 2003 1:12 am

Your worried about people living too long? That's what guns are for Calal.

atoga · Post by **atoga** » Tue Sep 09, 2003 1:15 am

Bore me. Drugs & enzyme pills which increase one's life expectancy are nothing new.

T-900 · Post by **T-900** » Tue Sep 09, 2003 1:27 am

"Bore me." - atoga.

Click here.

Jimmyjay86 · Post by **Jimmyjay86** » Tue Sep 09, 2003 1:29 am

atoga wrote:Bore me. Drugs & enzyme pills which increase one's life expectancy are nothing new.

Well it apparently goes beyond a simple extension of life expectancy with a boosting of any dopamine deficiencies which signal the onset of Alzheimer's. If that were proven without any nasty side effects it would be a wonder. Alzheimer's runs in the family and I think I'd rather die another way than be struck down by that.

atoga · Post by **atoga** » Tue Sep 09, 2003 2:18 am

There will always be side effects to such a wonder drug. Those things will always fuck you up; if not physically, then mentally.

T-900, do you have something against the Scots?

iohkus · Post by **iohkus** » Tue Sep 09, 2003 3:12 am

i don't know, if i was on a shroom trip for my entire life i'd be pretty happy

Megatron · Post by **Megatron** » Tue Sep 09, 2003 12:14 pm

yea, even if I went deaf and lost control of one side of my body, living until I'm 150 would be kewl

Tank · Post by **Tank** » Tue Sep 09, 2003 1:16 pm

well, if this shit really works, sign me up...

Nothing like growing really old, do you have any idea how much bigger the chance of experiencing the world of Fallout would be then?

Megatron · Post by **Megatron** » Tue Sep 09, 2003 2:06 pm

yea you'd be liek

Viktor · Post by **Viktor** » Tue Sep 09, 2003 2:44 pm

iohkus wrote:i don't know, if i was on a shroom trip for my entire life i'd be pretty happy

And if you were too stoned to ever post again, we'd be pretty damn happy too!

Tank · Post by **Tank** » Wed Sep 10, 2003 9:13 am

hey, the man's got a point!

the guardian · Post by **the guardian** » Fri Sep 12, 2003 10:03 pm

I'm talking about "smart drugs", actually.

Guess no one ever tried that here.

Bridgeburner · Post by **Bridgeburner** » Fri Sep 12, 2003 10:10 pm

i tried xtc once. with extra amfitamine. made me horny like a bull.
sex + xtc = teh win.

don't have experience with other smart drugs though