Duck and Cover

New story, new characters, new map but the same damn engine. Oblivion with guns all over AGAIN.. I'm very disappointed... really... I was hoping for new models and stuff... but by looking at the screenshots and the model of the Doctor that helps the main character I find that everything looks like the wasteland from F3.....it feels like a expansion pack, not a new game.

Hmm, they're getting more observent. Get the spray!

Isn't their already a thread on this site addressing the issue?

Oblivion with guns was a design choice, and had nothing to do with the engine.

Retlaw83 wrote:Oblivion with guns was a design choice, and had nothing to do with the engine.

Quoted for emphasis.

Now I just want to clarify something although I may be a bit late on it. "Oblivion with Guns" doesn't really do Oblivion justice I think; I remember the press splooging all over the TREES MAN HOLY SHIT THEY ARE AMAZING. And by fuck even beth screwed that up, they took out the most compelling part of oblivion and made it fallout 3.

FUCKING MAGNETS!

How do they work?

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Yonmanc wrote:well ou ser they work on te privncple twat shaggy too dope couldenver nderstand and thats wak

fuck magnets etls build things made of ideas

YES

I had a brief email chat with Avellone, and he said he was both proud and excited for New Vegas. If you can't take his word for it, who can you?

My Problem is that all looks the same...but..well...maybe the story and the atmosphere are better.. or maybe not. I was hopping for a complete redesign of the wasteland and its inhabitants ( This is an spinoff alfter all).

People calls it oblivion with guns because everything is similar except the fact that they don't use swords as their main weapon... but the NPCs walk, act, and talk between them like in elder scrolls.

Let's go over this again, because you're obviously not big with reading comprehension. In Fallout 3, the NPCs acted the way they did because that's how Bethesda designed the game. While New Vegas uses the same engine, that does not mean that it will also be Oblivion guns because the designers have chosen to not make it Oblivion with guns.

B-b-but, Bethesda made Oblivion, and that's an engine, and and and why does the dollar bill have the eye of horus? THE ILLUMINATI MADE OBVLIVION WITH GUNS SO THEY COULD MAKE VEGAS WITH GUNS BECASE THEY MADE AN ENGINE THAT RUNS A GAME CALLED OBLIVION AND ANOTHER CALLED FALLOUT :fallout: AND THEN THEY GIVE SOME OF THE GUYS GUNS SO OBVIOUSLY NEW VEGAS IS OBLIVION WITH GUNS.

I know I'm behind with posting it, but for what is already there, you should keep up with New Vegas' dev news/etc. The game's action/consequences/conversations, for the most part, seem far more complex than anything FO3 could ever produce.

Manoil wrote:I had a brief email chat with Avellone, and he said he was both proud and excited for New Vegas. If you can't take his word for it, who can you?

Come on, you didn't really expect him to say the contrary now, did you?

Frater Perdurabo wrote:

Manoil wrote:I had a brief email chat with Avellone, and he said he was both proud and excited for New Vegas. If you can't take his word for it, who can you?

Come on, you didn't really expect him to say the contrary now, did you?

True, but his wording didn't play out like he was sidestepping anything or dodging a direct answer. I'm pretty sure he's really excited, and if that's the case, I am too. He's been an integral part of the series; I would think that his disappointments (while not public) with FO3 would only drive him to redeem the franchise he helped create.

I've been following the news as it's leaked out, and so far it DOES look as if New Vegas is a deeper animal then Fo3. Same engine and it's shortcomings, but at least a more recognisable core.

Doc Hill wrote:I've been following the news as it's leaked out, and so far it DOES look as if New Vegas is a deeper animal then Fo3. Same engine and it's shortcomings, but at least a more recognisable core.

Really?

Because I think we've seen this core before.



Same old shit is the same old shit.

So what did you expect them to start completely from scratch?