Word Holmes - I just think of it as interesting debate? I dunno, I've seen this argument millions of times between you and hammer/anyone else so I doubt your mind is suddenly gonna be changed, but it's fun to debate. Occasionally you learn something...or bore the other members to death...
Finland also has a much lower population rate, smaller urban centers, etc so simply comparing Finlands crime rate to the US is like trying to compare overall income between the US and Taiwan, it's an inaccurate comparison.
If it's all about principle, then shouldn't the "Pro rights" principle be MORE correct since you're giving individuals MORE freedom to run their lives? Exactly whose principles are we talking about here? Definetly not mine.
I can't imagine why it wouldn't work for others as well
I can. It's called the strain theory; people who commit crime do it because they want to; they have a storyline leading up to the crime which leads them to commiting it. If people wish to commit gun crimes, chances are they will, no matter what the anti-rights laws wish to say. In the area of crime, you have to look at the bigger picture; not just "oh well gun crime! loller!"
Illegal guns can come from a variety of sources, not just foreign import. They can come from internal sources as well, so it's not always a matter of border tightening; and even so criminals are very adaptive. How do you think people still make it across the border or smuggle items in? It's not that law enforcement isn't doing it's job well enough, its that the criminals are finding ways to co-op with it.
I don't know if Finland is some sort of eutopia or whatever, however there is no reason why you should deprive the rights of responsible individuals simply because you don't like it.
