Quentin Tarantino: does he suck?

Phias · Post by **Phias** » Wed Jan 05, 2005 6:32 pm

I enjoyed Pulp Fiction and Resevoir Dogs, but I couldn't get in to his other works. Kill Bill 1 was interesting though.

V for Vendetta · Post by **V for Vendetta** » Sat Jan 08, 2005 8:40 pm

The thing about Kill Bill Vol. 2 is that he tried to make two genre movies at once, and then add in character development. I still think it's brilliant stylistically until the very last half hour; kung-fu + western = delicious. He's in no way a brilliant writer in terms of content, but he's entirely about form and not much else -- you don't go to one of his movies expecting Scorcese.

St. Toxic · Post by **St. Toxic** » Sat Jan 08, 2005 8:54 pm

Well I tend to! And I'm disappointed!

Subhuman · Post by **Subhuman** » Sat Jan 08, 2005 9:14 pm

V wrote:I still think it's brilliant stylistically until the very last half hour

You mean when she finally kills Bill, in a genuinely touching and clever scene? And then when she cries in the bathroom with gratitude for being reunited with her thought-to-be-dead daughter? Yeah, those parts totally sucked. Not enough fighting.

If anything, Vol. 2 proved that Tarantino isn't just about style; he can work the heartstrings, too.

By the way, the poll should have an option between "He's okay, nothing special" and "He's brilliant! Brilliant!" That's where my opinion lies.

Nicolai · Post by **Nicolai** » Sat Jan 08, 2005 9:19 pm

those scenes were fucking gay

Subhuman · Post by **Subhuman** » Sat Jan 08, 2005 9:19 pm

I rest my case.

Blargh · Post by **Blargh** » Sat Jan 08, 2005 9:22 pm

No demographic has a monopoly on emotion, and Mr. Tarantino is fairly mediocre when it comes to distilling it into his films.

Megatron · Post by **Megatron** » Sat Jan 08, 2005 9:37 pm

is that what happened? I thought he just walked away and fell over. I forgot about all that stuff, I kept thinking of peter sellers or whoever as the pimp and the girl with the cleft lip. Could he talk any more slower, god!

S4ur0n27 · Post by **S4ur0n27** » Sun Jan 09, 2005 1:02 am

But do you actually go to a Tarantino movie expecting the best plot and contant?

Megatron · Post by **Megatron** » Sun Jan 09, 2005 1:49 am

What else should I expect from movies?

I just watched Jackie Brown and it's probably my favourite Tarantino movie. I think it has the best story and characters? It was still a bit average though. Resevoir Dogs was ok but it seemed a bit static and nothing really happened. Pulp Fiction was to stylish. Kill Bill was a cocktail of apeshit and pure balls.

Do I like Tarantino movies as movies or as Tarantino movies? They're ok movies if you just flick through the channels and start watching one without expecting anything. If you watch one after expecting the best movie ever omg he messes around whit time WHOA, it's a bit shit.

Mandalorian FaLLouT GoD · Sun Jan 09, 2005 3:06 am

Its a little more than a bit shit.
I love how people like Kill Bill when its an obviously rip-off of every 70s movie ever made. Don't bull that "its a tribute" bullshit either.

atoga · Post by **atoga** » Sun Jan 09, 2005 3:13 am

Can't we just say that Kill Bill is kind of fun (if you're into schlock) and leave it at that? Subhumans of the world, stop masturbating. Also, QT is kind of losing his ability to weave references into a movie convincingly. In Pulp Fiction and Jackie Brown, they were just kind of casually dropped, but all of a sudden in Kill Bill, the references are all incredibly obvious and dumb. What the fuck?

S4ur0n27 · Post by **S4ur0n27** » Sun Jan 09, 2005 4:21 am

I heard he stopped smoking

Subhuman · Post by **Subhuman** » Sun Jan 09, 2005 7:23 am

atoga wrote:Also, QT is kind of losing his ability to weave references into a movie convincingly. In Pulp Fiction and Jackie Brown, they were just kind of casually dropped, but all of a sudden in Kill Bill, the references are all incredibly obvious and dumb.

Predictably, I feel the exact opposite. The pop-culture dialogue and clever references in both Dogs and Pulp seemed self-conscious and forced, like Tarantino was jacking off to his own utter hipness. But the kung-fu references in Kill Bill are basically the movie's raison d'etre, so it's kind of a moot point. It's like criticizing High Fidelity for all the music references - they're part of the package.

And for the last time, I don't think Tarantino is a genius, just a good filmmaker. And I hated Pulp Fiction - HATED - so stop trying to label me a QT fanboy. Please. It's getting old.

atoga · Post by **atoga** » Sun Jan 09, 2005 7:44 am

Well I guess you're just a chowderhead, then. Class dismissed.

V for Vendetta · Post by **V for Vendetta** » Sun Jan 09, 2005 11:04 am

Mandalorian FaLLouT GoD wrote:Its a little more than a bit shit.
I love how people like Kill Bill when its an obviously rip-off of every 70s movie ever made. Don't bull that "its a tribute" bullshit either.

Oh, yeah, he CLEARLY wasn't making references, nor did he want anyone to realize what he borrowed from the 70s.

It ain't bullshit, chum, those movies ARE tributes.

Kashluk · Post by **Kashluk** » Sun Jan 09, 2005 11:47 am

Tributes tend to be shit.

Megatron · Post by **Megatron** » Sun Jan 09, 2005 12:44 pm

What was the point though? I could understand mabye having the characters talking about kung-fu films in the fast-talking motherfucker kind of way, but it's sort of the fallout 2 of movies. It would have been better to just make a fucking movie instead of making a movie about sonny chiba and uma thurmans feet.

Subhuman · Post by **Subhuman** » Mon Jan 10, 2005 12:07 am

It wasn't about Sonny Chiba or Uma Thurman's feet.

S4ur0n27 · Post by **S4ur0n27** » Mon Jan 10, 2005 1:45 am

It was about Go Go Yubari!

Well, I wish it was

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