Rumor: Brotherhood of Steel in Fallout New Vegas

Post by **King of Creation** » Sun Feb 14, 2010 6:46 pm

I still want to know how there are people with Irish and British accents 200 years after a war that broke all contact off from the UK. Even if both parents are British, a kid growing up among a group with a different accent takes on the accent of the group. James and Colin Moriarty should have sounded as American as the rest of them.

Kashluk · Post by **Kashluk** » Sun Feb 14, 2010 7:16 pm

I really like the way the whole accent/language thing is done in Wasteland comic (here's the linkage). People develope new ones, dialects get mixed, the education (or actually lack of it) has its effect and so on.

Yonmanc · Post by **Yonmanc** » Sun Feb 14, 2010 7:18 pm

King of Creation wrote:I still want to know how there are people with Irish and British accents 200 years after a war that broke all contact off from the UK. Even if both parents are British, a kid growing up among a group with a different accent takes on the accent of the group. James and Colin Moriarty should have sounded as American as the rest of them.

Same reason there' scientists working on new technology in a world without schools, books, learning resources. which is also the reason BoS are willing to waste precious bullets to recover childrens books. And let's not forget Ashur throwing away thousands of The Pitt's bottlecaps, too make sure a small newborn baby that doesn't age has at least 2000 teddy bears to play with.

Kashluk · Post by **Kashluk** » Sun Feb 14, 2010 7:22 pm

Hey, KoC, found this on VaultWiki on the subject:

Colin Moriarty was born in 2227 and has lived in Megaton almost his entire life. Moriarty's father came to the former United States from Ireland with his young son, and amassed his wealth using the nearby trade routes, which helped secure Megaton as a trading hub in the area.

???

Yonmanc · Post by **Yonmanc** » Sun Feb 14, 2010 7:27 pm

Kashluk wrote:Hey, KoC, found this on VaultWiki on the subject:

Colin Moriarty was born in 2227 and has lived in Megaton almost his entire life. Moriarty's father came to the former United States from Ireland with his young son, and amassed his wealth using the nearby trade routes, which helped secure Megaton as a trading hub in the area.
???

I thought that street at the top of the map miles away from anywhere was the trading hub. How badly written was that game?

Post by **King of Creation** » Sun Feb 14, 2010 7:34 pm

How the hell did he make it from Ireland to the US? Let's employ some nitpicking here:

He could have come by boat, but presumably the seas are irradiated like the rest of the water everywhere, so he would have die of radiation poisoning along the way. I mean, come on. We all know the accent is a gimmick and they're just trying to feebly explain it away.

Frater Perdurabo · Post by **Frater Perdurabo** » Sun Feb 14, 2010 8:22 pm

Kashluk wrote:Hey, KoC, found this on VaultWiki on the subject:

Colin Moriarty was born in 2227 and has lived in Megaton almost his entire life. Moriarty's father came to the former United States from Ireland with his young son, and amassed his wealth using the nearby trade routes, which helped secure Megaton as a trading hub in the area.
???

Wow, how pathetic. It's like they're not even trying.

Post by **Manoil** » Mon Feb 15, 2010 3:10 am

By 200 yrs, they'd probably have found a way to get across. Crossing the atlantic requires more than just a little boat, too. If it was a cruise liner type deal or some kind of multilevel commercial vessel, they might have had some kind of purification tech. Or maybe Vault-Tec had a branch or possibly a rival similar company working against them overseas? How many of the Brits survived? Did any of the SAS survive and do the same type of deal as the US military types at Mariposa? What about the European armies? Who's alive over there? What animal species have emerged as the primal wildlife? Packs of rabid foxes? Bird mutations? What type of problems are existing over there due to the radiation? How much is law and order existent over there? Was the Enclave the only representing government to premptively prepare for the nuclear annihilation? Is there anything more lethal than Frank Horrigan? How many countries only suffered light damage due to a lack of nuclear target importance? Have any of them formalized into a place with little or no raider activity? What have the famous locations of Europe and Asia become for the post-apocalyptic wasters? Which are left? How many places are devoid of life, and which ones are plentiful with it?

These questions, I need to know.

Psychoul · Post by **Psychoul** » Mon Feb 15, 2010 6:05 am

That is left for my fallout UK edition.. lulz jk
wait.. that actually sound kinda interesting.
Or maybe the oppostite aggressor, China?
That would be kinda interesting to play as a Chinese survivor and learn the truths of the country. And when exiting Vault 䮔 or what ever, you will find 1000's of people, instead of 10 like in in the America Vault, dead outside of vault 䮔.

oo, make is so you have to learn chinese to play, or you can learn with the game.. lol jk.

Well, there are a lot of unanswered questions and mystaries and things that are answered poorly with no thought on the canon or the reality of the story, so its hard to tell what is and isnt...
Other than what is given.

Amis · Post by **Amis** » Tue Feb 16, 2010 5:16 am

I wonder what ever happened to fallout: yurop? Didn't they get hacked or something? Would be interesting to know what happened in the other countries during the great war.

Post by **Manoil** » Tue Feb 16, 2010 5:25 pm

Exactly. The beauty of Fallout is that all we've seen is the immersive(sic) world that is the remnants of the United States. You have any idea how much room there is to expand? How much freedom to add and enrich the universe? It's got the freedom given practically only to the Star Wars universe, except it's more relatable, only needing one planet, and more humorous/dark.

How interesting would it be to walk in the slavic countries? Or Scotland? And even the cities themselves-- Tokyo, Hong Kong, Stalingrad, Chernobyl, Amsterdam, London, Mexico City...

All the new species, new factions, new environments and obstacles to overcome. Can you imagine the sheer expanse of it? How incredible it would be?

Yonmanc · Post by **Yonmanc** » Tue Feb 16, 2010 5:59 pm

And if bethesda made it...

English super-mutants!

Amis · Post by **Amis** » Tue Feb 16, 2010 6:14 pm

Yonmanc wrote:And if bethesda made it...

English super-mutants!

Your forgeting Lou

Post by **Dogmeatlives** » Tue Feb 16, 2010 6:41 pm

the problem with expanding it overseas is that you lose much of the Falloutiness. Fallout is distinctly Western American. Take it out of that region and you might as well place it in another world.

Ausir · Post by **Ausir** » Tue Feb 16, 2010 6:57 pm

I don't necessarily think so. Other countries had their part in the 1950s vision of the future. I'm pretty sure a game set in a retro Soviet Union with futuristic socialist realism all around would still be pretty Fallouty, although I wouldn't necessarily want it in the main Fallout series.

Post by **Retlaw83** » Tue Feb 16, 2010 7:18 pm

King of Creation wrote:Even if both parents are British, a kid growing up among a group with a different accent takes on the accent of the group.

Gonna call bullshit on that. I'm from America but was raised in South Africa from the time I was 4 until I was 12. I didn't pick up even a trace of a South African accent, because I didn't want to talk like a bunch of second-world yokels.

Post by **King of Creation** » Tue Feb 16, 2010 7:35 pm

Retlaw83 wrote:
King of Creation wrote:Even if both parents are British, a kid growing up among a group with a different accent takes on the accent of the group.
Gonna call bullshit on that. I'm from America but was raised in South Africa from the time I was 4 until I was 12. I didn't pick up even a trace of a South African accent, because I didn't want to talk like a bunch of second-world yokels.

Fair enough. I can only back my case up with friends of mine that were born in England, Ireland, and Italy. All the parents still have strong accents, but after growing up in the US, the kids all sound very American.

Kashluk · Post by **Kashluk** » Tue Feb 16, 2010 7:51 pm

Yeah, I guess it also depends on personal characteristics. I, for one, tend to change even my Finnish dialect real easy depending on my surroundings. 12 months in the military and I had almost completely lost the dialect I've spoken for over 15 years. It reinsurfaces when I visit my old home town, but then when I come back to my own place it slowly fades away again.

Then again, I know people who have always spoken in the same way, no matter that they've lived all around the country and even abroad for longer periods of time.

Curious detail: My English teacher back in high school used to say that I have an American accent. Too much Hollywood movies, I guess? The funny thing with the Finnish schooling system is that everyone is supposed to speak like a traditional British gentleman ('care for a spot of tea, jolly gosh') when it's incredibly difficult to force a Finn's tongue into that specific dialect of English. I've always felt that speaking with an Indian accent was easier than that. Most Finns speak English like Scottsmen, anyway.

Post by **Manoil** » Tue Feb 16, 2010 9:41 pm

I want to see this firsthand, Kash. Video.

Post by **Retlaw83** » Tue Feb 16, 2010 10:10 pm

Kashluk wrote: Curious detail: My English teacher back in high school used to say that I have an American accent. Too much Hollywood movies, I guess?

Rock on.

I was an English major in college. In my experience, American English tends to be more accessible and rolls off the tongue easier.

The British may have invented English, but we perfected it. I also find it highly amusing that many British people I've met can't pronounce most of the letters in the alphabet (like t's and r's) during normal speech.